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Oh, my, this is worse than I thought!

KennyRoberts has really brought home the severity of the “gay problem.”  Here’s what he says…no kidding:

If gay marriage continues to spread across this nation you will see a gentle tugging for us to stop and repent of this and we can get bandaged up and do what is pleasing to our Creator. If we persist in rebellion, this nation will be destroyed, famine, disease, slavery, and bloodshed will be brought here from outside. We are the collateral for the trillions of dollars of national debt, you know, the only reason we are free is because our ancestors in this nation considered the merits of Deuteronomy  28.

No editing.  No taking anything out of context.  This is what will happen to us if the scourge of gay marriage continues to sweep the country.

I guess I could try to say something snarky here or present some irrefutable argument to the contrary, but I’m just at a loss for thoughts or words.  I’m just so afraid of the famine, disease, slavery, and bloodshed that awaits us.  Damn gay people ruining our world.

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Pastor Bob Emrich

Pastor Bob Emrich is Maine’s voice for the social conservative right-wing, both on AMG and in public.

He must be a lovable guy. I mean, look, here he is feeding a duck while a cute child stands nearby.

Unfortunately there is a darker side to that picture.

The duck was at Emrich’s church for some sexual identity re-alignment therapy. Yes, it was a gay duck. Thanks to Bob Emrich and several years of therapy and bible reading, it married a nice female duck and had several ducklings before being found dead in a hotel room several years later when, succumbing to years of self-delusion, it spent a long night out at a gay duck bar dancing to club remixes with other “bear” ducks and then hung itself out of shame the next day. This is a sad story, but Pastor Emrich had immense sympathy for the duck’s widow who, of course, is the only victim in such a scenario.

Because as Pastor Emrich stated in regards to the public shaming and then suicide of a gay college student last year:

The “victim” of suicide is the person left behind, not the one who committed the act.

And later in the same thread:

A person who commits suicide does it to themselves. To give them “victim” status shifts the blame to others.

Such an easy, simple rule to follow. And it conveniently erases all responsibility for third parties regarding how they treated the suicide victim.

Consider a hypothetical: a person in a dictator’s prison camp kills themselves to escape daily abuse and oppression. What does the Emrich Rule tell us about the situation? Don’t blame the people running the camp. Obviously, the suicide “perpetrator” (as Emrich would call them) is only the person who actually did the final, physical act.

That’s a bit of an extreme example, but it fits. If a gay person is told he is wrong, that the way he feels inside is wrong, and unless he fixes it he will be ostracized from his peers… well, that is going to raise the risk of suicide. It just is. Not everyone in that situation will wind up hurting themselves, but the more public and thorough the hate is, the greater the chances of something bad happening.

But Reverend Emrich can’t admit that, because, hey, how would gay people know not to be gay if we treated them the same as everyone else? It is all the gay person’s fault. They choose to be gay. Sometimes they choose to kill themselves. So be it, right?

And now we find out that Rev. Emrich knows The Distributist/Michael Pajak personally. Shocking, isn’t it?

And Rev. Emrich doesn’t think Michael Pajak should lose his job for the years of hate he spewed. Shocking, isn’t it?

And Rev. Emrich never found any of Pajak’s comments to be immoral enough to warrant even a slight rebuke. Shocking, isn’t it?

Hmm.

Nope.

This blog drew a mention in Al Diamon’s column in the Portland Phoenix.

Speaking of [Gubernatorial candidate Kevin] Scott, his erstwhile campaign manager, Michael Pajak, earned the I Have The Courage Of My Convictions As Long As I Don’t Have To Use My Real Name Award. According to the blog asmainegoeslolz.com, Pajak has been posting anti-gay and anti-Muslim comments on the As Maine Goes Web site under the pseudonym “The Distributist” (sample: “Existing information could lead one to conclude that homosexual behavior is to genetics what islam [sic] is to religion”). Asked about his homophobia and religious intolerance, Pajak refused to answer, saying he was being questioned about a “fictional character.”

Sort of like the lynch mob in To Kill A Mockingbird.

A profile of prolific AMG poster “The Distributist” is up.

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A Sunday AMG Gay-Thread Update!

It’s a pleasant Sunday afternoon. I’ve got my yardwork done for the weekend so how better to spend the time than checking out the happenings on asmainegoes?

All connoisseurs of radical Maine Republican politics will be happy to see that there is a new gay thread! It is called “One in ten children “born gay,” or so they say!

It starts when “woodcanoe” expresses his dissatisfaction with all the “gay activism” on facebook these days. The “gay activism” woodcanoe is so upset about is a bunch of facebook postings regarding the recent spate of suicides by gay youths. It must be very upsetting to have friends that care for other people.

Regarding whether the news of suicides is accurate of not, Woodcanoe states with a sense of disappointment: “It is difficult to find genuine unbiased news when most all of the sources were gay oriented websites.”

The other thing woodcanoe is upset about is the oft-repeated line, “One in ten children are born gay.” Now, I don’t know if that it true or not – I really don’t care. The fact is that many people are gay and it doesn’t matter if it is 1% or 10%- they shouldn’t be driven to suicide by a lack of tolerance and understanding among their peers.

AMGers though, take a slightly different view.

Here is The Distributist acting as his usual hateful self, doubting that discrimination against gays even exists:

Same as if there were actually any real-life instances of discrimination … those, too, would be front page news. They aren’t because they do not exit.

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Existing information could lead one to conclude that homosexual behavior is to genetics what islam is to religion.

Read that last sentence again. He managed to insult the two most-hated-by-Republican groups in the same sentence in under twenty words. He’s a pro.

Next we have Michelle Anderson equating homosexuality, which is not an unhealthy addiction nor a danger to others, with alcoholism, which of course is an unhealthy addiction and a danger to others:

Alcoholics DO commit suicide. And there are statistics that prove that. In fact, alcoholism is one of the top “reasons” for suicide.

I’m not seeing a lot of “in your face” activism to let alcoholics who were born that way to drink and drive, to be neglectful parents, or to change the laws so that people have to hire and rent to people who are drunk.

Michelle is the master of completely inept analogies. She is like the Wile E. Coyote of analogy-makers: always going off a cliff. See how easy that was, Michelle! I’m available to be your analogy subcontractor. Just send me an email whenever you’re thinking of making one, and I’ll let you know the depth of its stupidity.

Speaking of stupidity, “pmconusa” brings us the kind of thoughtful, deep analysis of the issues we have come to expect from your average asmainegoes poster:

I once witnessed a cow in a field perched on the back of another cow going through the motions as would a bull. I concluded that nature does have a way of producing mutants of one form or another and with the number of humans now in the billions that this same anonomly applies to two legged as well as four legged animals. Those who consider themselves different have now parlayed their differences, whether real or imagined, to garner special treatment. It is not surprising that many would imagine themselves as such to get on the bandwagon and gain their 15 minutes of fame. Minorities have been doing it for years.

If I were going to write a parody of how an idiot determines his worldview regarding homosexuality, I might start with “I once witnessed a cow perched on the back of another cow.” Unfortunately, reality has stolen my joke. And what is the deal with the minorities have been getting “their fifteen minutes of fame” thing? What does that mean? The civil rights movement was a desperate ploy for attention by fame-seeking minorities? Good lord.

Meanwhile, Melvin Udall is perpetually illogical:

It’s interesting to juxtapose the confidence in new generations of voters allowing gay marriage to become legal, which I suppose is “normalized,” with those same new voters setting the stage for Islamification of our country, and the imposition of Sharia.

Voting for gay marriage is voting for Sharia law! Holy crap. How ludicrous. But he really, really thinks that. I bet his grandpa didn’t want to let the women vote because it would help the communists.

And I’m just realizing how long this post already is and I’m not even onto the second page of this particular AMG thread. Oh boy. We’ve got a long ways to go.

Someone named “samadams” presents this theory:

If you accept the premise that homosexuality is biologically based, then don’t you also have to accept that otherbehaviors are also biologically based?

That is to say:

Blacks are lazy
Mexicans lie
Pollocks are stupid
Chinese are inveterate gamblers
Irish are drunks…

First: Chinese are gamblers? Man, my knowledge of stereotypes must be out of date because I didn’t know that one. Bad drivers? Sure. Gambling? New to me.

Anyways, samadams, let me point out that there is a genetic component to drinking. It isn’t tied to being Irish, but it is there. There are probably genetic components to laziness, too- some part of our energy levels are controlled by brain chemistry and hormones. But again, this isn’t tied to a certain race, which is what makes your examples so disgusting. What you are doing is comparing completely faulty biological explanations that were created by human prejudice with something totally different- specifically, the idea that attraction is biologically based and, like anything else in biology, can vary.

This next one might make you snort milk out your nose. You’ve been warned. If you continue to read without putting down the milk carton, you have no one but yourself to blame for your soppy keyboard.

It is another Michelle Anderson masterpiece. You know it is promising because it starts like this:

I don’t know a whole lot about biology or genetics, other than what I learned in high school and college,but…

Well that’s good. We’ve established that Michelle doesn’t know much about the topic. So why is there a “but” at the end? Oh, because she’s probably going to give us some ridiculous explanation regardless of her lack of reasonable knowledge. Let’s hear it.

….but I do seem to remember that genes are passed down from both parents.

For the sake of argument, let’s pretend that there is such a thing.

THAT’S IT!? That is what you had to preface with “I don’t know a whole lot about…?” You weren’t sure if genes are passed down by parents to offspring? (SMACKS FOREHEAD) Yes, Michelle, for the sake of argument, lets pretend that there is, in fact, something called a gene that is passed from parent to child. What does that mean to you?

If both parents have the theoretical “gay gene,” then the children are likely to have that gene. But I doubt that there are a whole lot of births where both parents have the gay gene.

That being the case, children in families with two mommies or two daddies are less likely to carry the gene.

And the same for their children.

So we would end up with fewer people who are the result of a “gay gene” rather than more people.

As I said, I am not an expert, but that sure seems to be logical to me.

As someone who is also familiar with genetics from high school and college, but who either paid a lot more attention or went to much better schools, let me try to make a short list of the incorrect assumptions Michelle puts in this trainwreck of thought:

  1. Michelle assumes that hereditary traits are tied one-to-one with a specific gene, rather than often being the result of a bunch of different genes all of which can be passed on independently (In other words, Michelle assumes monogenetic inheritance).
  2. She forgets that genes can be dominant or regressive. Or, if you want to blow Michelle’s mind, incompletely dominant or co-dominant.
  3. The expression of genes is affected by the environment.

All of which make her conclusion meaningless. But hey, don’t worry Michelle, we’re used to it. Keep typing away! And to be honest, I’m not even sure what the point of her little vignette was, anyways.

Lastly, Pastor Bob Emrich helpfully gives us some insight into how he views the interaction between homosexuals and their families. He states that gays are told to “come out” in order to force families to approve their lifestyle and thus help the greater gay rights movement:

Yes. It is a deliberate, planned strategy following the “community conversation” approach. Part of the plan is to encourage more people to “come out”, forcing families and friends to give approval.

No one is forced to give approval. Obviously, I would hope that families and friends could see beyond a person’s sexual identity and decide, notwithstanding such identity, to approve of that person, but notice how Pastor Emrich uses the word “force.” It is as if the gay person is to blame for other people loving them even though they are gay. In Emrich’s mind, love is a bludgeon that the gay person uses on friends and family to force acceptance. It is apparently every gay person’s duty to hide who they are from everyone so as to not take advantage of that love.

Very uplifting, Mr. man-of-God dude. Where is that in the bible?

So, dear reader, are you disgusted enough yet? I’ll give your stomach and conscience a break. See you at the next gay thread!

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Tom C: Fun-Nazi

Tom C isn’t just anti-gay; he is anti-fun. Look at him note here (I did not check his facts) that soldiers can be discharged for partaking in oral sex.

Under DADT, you can still be discharged for gay activity wherever it takes place.

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), Sec 125, (a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex can be discharged.

That includes (can I say it here?) oral sex.

If soldiers were discharged for oral sex, I believe nearly 95% of them would have to pack their bags. We would be vulnerable to invasion by Canada. America as we know it would be over.

Is that what you want, Tom C? To be placed in an internment camp and forced to listen to Rush?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Is there any doubt why Tom is SO damn cranky all the time? Any doubt at all?

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Tom C is too extreme, even for AMG

Tom C got a Scott Fish reprimand for posting inappropriate pictures of gay men in leather on AMG, and trying to push those pictures as the gay “norm.” The pictures are no longer present in Tom’s post. Although I doubt Tom is in any serious danger of being permanently banned, because that seems to be a punishment reserved for liberal posters, I nevertheless want to offer Tom a helping hand.

Tom, if you want to post pictures of mainstream gay Americans without putting yourself in danger of being banned, please use some of the examples below. Feel free to link right from this site!

You’re welcome, Tom.

It is common knowledge that the group of people who openly disparage homosexuals as “scary” tend to be the same group of people with an inordinate number of closeted, repressed homosexuals in their midst. Quick list of examples: the rentboy.com guy, Larry Craig, and Ted Haggard.

Besides being an anecdotally noticeable trend, scientific studies using a technique known as “penile plethysmography” have shown that “homophobic” straight men are more likely to become aroused watching male homosexual porn than non-homophobic straight men. In other words, if you hooked me and Tom C up to a penile plethysmograph and turned on the gay porn, I’d probably shrug while Tom pitched a tent. We will never know for sure, however, because I broke my penile plethysmograph at the last penile plethysmograph convention after-party and it’s hard to find parts for those things.

Anyways, if the science is correct then AMG is chock full of closeted homosexuals. The likes of Apollo, LMD, Tom C, and The Distributist come to mind.

Their amazing ability to hate all things homosexual, even to the detriment of our national security, is on full view in this thread about a Marine who thinks letting gays openly serve in the military is a bad idea. Why a bad idea? Because Marines, apparently, get all whiny about the prospect of sharing a room with a gay. I don’t understand why, because the gay is still thought to be non-contagious, but AMGers fully support the argument.

Apollo wins the award for most blindly idiotic point with this:

But Charlotte, since it is generally accepted, even among liberals, that gays have multiple partners and have far less self control when it comes to sexuality, wouldn’t this be disruptive in the military?

I almost feel bad picking on Apollo; after all, his outrage on this topic surely stems from transferred anger over the refusal of his fellow Greek deities to share a room with him on Mt. Olympus. Nevertheless, I must point out that arguing against gays serving in the military sans daily lying to everyone, based on the assumed sexual restraint of heterosexual service members, has got to be one of the most naive, imbecilic arguments made in the history of man. Or even Greek gods.

I guess in Apollo’s fantasy world, American soldiers sit in their cots each evening tightening their promise bracelets and writing letters to mother and a high-school sweetheart. These soldiers are models of chastity and sexual self-restraint. Reality, unfortunately, has a slightly different story to tell. For instance, look at this news piece entitled “US Sailors Wear Out Sex Workers.” An excerpt:

Perth prostitutes were reeling from exhaustion following an influx of United States sailors stressed from a stint in a war zone, a well-known madam said today.

Mary-Anne Kenworthy said she was forced to close the doors of her famous Langtrees brothel for only the third time ever yesterday because her prostitutes were so worn out they could no longer provide a quality service.

Yes, American soldiers are known for their shyness when it comes to having a good time. Right. The gays would ruin the chaste lifestyle the military has worked so hard to maintain.

Here is how I see the issue: Being a marine isn’t easy. When compared to the fear of, you know, getting shot, I don’t think a lot of them are worried about whether their roommate is an uncloseted homosexual. And I say uncloseted because, after all, under current policy a roommate could be gay but just not telling you. Doesn’t the Marine quoted at the start of the thread actually argue for removing all homosexuals from the military, whether they are open about it or not? Isn’t that the only way to end a soldier’s fear that his roommate listening to show tunes before missions is not preparing to do, I don’t know, whatever it is he would do that causes the homophobic Marine so much anxiety in the first place? Yeah, the argument does suggest that conclusion, but logic is not something the gay haters are known for.

There are two non-depressing things about this thread. One: the end of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is inevitably near, regardless of how AMG feels about it. Two: this is a great reason for a new AMGLOLZ poll!

Studies show that the most publicly anti-gay people are more likely to be repressed homosexuals themselves. Accordingly, it is a near certainty that at least one AMGer is secretly gay. Who?

  • The Distributist. He's never said what it is he actually distributes... Could it be tasteful floral arrangements? (9%, 4 Votes)
  • Apollo. He frickin' named himself after a bisexual deity! He says he merely intended to pay tribute to the space program, but David Bowie wrote "Major Tom" and I wouldn't call him a straight arrow (47%, 22 Votes)
  • LMD. Lesbian Most Definitely? (9%, 4 Votes)
  • Tom C. Really, who would be surprised? Maybe his mother. Maybe. (32%, 15 Votes)
  • Vikingstar. Is it just me, or does that name simply scream cabaret? (3%, 2 Votes)

Total Voters: 47

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