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Is Newt Gingrich our Winston Churchill?

Doug Thomas thinks so!

In the 1930′s it was time for Winston Churchill….England needed him. I think the United States is in much worse shape than we know and we need solutions. Newt is the only candidate offering real workable solutions. We need Newt like England needed Churchill.

My forehead is sore from all the slapping it that happened as I read the above.

Newt.

Churchill?

Newt is a third rate scam artist.

Churchill helped save the free world.

Newt mails random people invitations to send him five-thousand dollars, and he will give them a fake award.

Churchill took on actual real Nazis.

Newt invented the health care mandate. Oh wait, that’s a good one.

For God’s sake- if you think people should vote for Newt, say so. But don’t say the man is Churchill! Especially now. You’re really saying, “Well Palin, Trump, Bachmann, Perry, and Cain didn’t work out. But look, what’d ya know, we’ve had a Churchill sitting right here the whole time! Who would have thunk?”

If you live under a rock, you might not know that last night Rick Perry painfully forgot the name of one of the three Federal agencies he would like to dismantle. It is the single worst debate experience I have ever seen from someone not in 8th grade or below.

The painful video.

I felt embarrassed for him just watching. Rick Perry is like the Republican version of Dunder Mifflin’s Michael Scott, but without the endearing quality of always having good intentions despite his stupidity.

Which must mean Herman Cain is role playing Michael Scott’s creepy, misogynistic friend from out of town.

Below: Todd Packer and Michael Scott, two key role models for this year’s Republican primaries.

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Herman Cain

The AMG thread on Herman Cain is titled: “I believe Herman Cain deserves our attention.”

This is a rare case where the AMG wisdom agrees with the majority of women in Maine, who also think Herman Cain deserves their attention…. But mostly to make sure he isn’t trying to shove their faces into his groin.

Noted hater of all things not white-Christian-conservative-male, Apollo, has no sympathy for the women accusing Cain:

The golddiggers are coming out of the woodwork now. The one today has a history of workplace complaints and demands.

This is how women are treated in the AMG world. If a man is successful, he is presumed moral- while if a woman complains, she is deemed an immoral gold digger. Nothing short of videotape will prove otherwise. Well, news flash- most people who grab women’s heads and shove it towards their lap while saying “You want a job, don’t you?” tend to do this in private, because they aren’t stupid.

So we’ve got four unrelated women saying that Herman Cain is a perv, but Apollo doesn’t buy it. Sure, the National Restaurant Association was worried a jury would buy it, and Cain’s story about “I just said she was as tall as my wife” makes no sense. After all, if you are a good gold digger, wouldn’t you make up a better story than that? Who pays out $45,000 based on that lame accusation? I would conclude the obvious, which is that Cain doesn’t want to tell us the real accusation for some reason.

And then there is Cain’s chief advisor, the “smoking man” from the famous ad, who says that one accuser’s son works for Politico, the people who broke the story. Sean Hannity had him on air last night and asked if this was confirmed. Smoking man said, yep, absolutely. Except it wasn’t confirmed. It isn’t true. And smoking man is too dumb to realize that lying about it on national television is probably not a good idea. Or he is too dumb to know the meaning of “confirmed.” Take your pick.

But Apollo stands firm. He knows that women just can’t stand a successful man; they will work as a pack to embarrass men and bring them down, selling their honor and credibility for a quick buck.

As long as they’re not too busy burning bras and getting abortions, of course.

It is almost enough to wonder why Apollo even bothers with women at all….

I made a flow chart to guide others through the Charlie Webster logic of voter registration, because it can be very confusing. It is in PDF format.

Consider it a draft; I am open to suggestions for additions. What would you add?

The Charlie Webster Voter Registration Guide.

AMGer “Thistle” doesn’t think anyone should criticize Charlie Summers, because even though he started out with 206 suspicious college kids and ended up with 400-and-something cases of wasted state investigatory resources and one El Salvadorean who voted in 2002 and has already been deported, Mr. Summers apparently came out with some other completely unexpected findings.

Says Thistle:

It appears these reporters came to the press conference with their stories written already. Why the singular focus on fraud? What the Secretary of State’s investigation found from a very small sampling (4/100′s of 1 percent of the voters in Maine’s Central Voter Registration system) are several weaknesses: students registered in Maine and in their home states, noncitizens registered to vote, a Maine law requiring municipalities to keep voting records two years only, and hundreds of potential dual voting cases where the same voters appear on more than one municipal voting list.

Let’s break this down.

Why the singular focus on fraud?

Maybe because Maine Republicans have been saying over and over again that there are lots of it? If we aren’t supposed to be focused on fraud, why did Charlie Webster hold that press conference about, well, fraud?

What the Secretary of State’s investigation found from a very small sampling (4/100′s of 1 percent of the voters in Maine’s Central Voter Registration system) are several weaknesses:

Wrong. They did not grab a random sample. They picked the 206 people that Charlie Webster had preselected and believed were likely fraudulent. Not just maybe kinda suspicious, but so apparently fraudulent that he had to hold a press conference about it right away. Just could not wait. And then Maine Republicans threw in other reported allegations, including things like driver’s license fraud. One would assume that they investigated the most likely cases first because, after all, they wanted to find fraud. Finding fraud supports their argument. And they looked back, apparently, all the way to at least 2002.

So the sample was not 4/100ths of 1 percent of Maine voters- it was 500 of the most suspicious cases anyone could find in at least the last nine years. And of those, only one case of actual fraud was found. If you extrapolate this out, one would expect about 1 case for every 500 reports, once a decade or so. Is that really a problem? I see that as damned near perfect.

Thistle said:

students registered in Maine and in their home states, noncitizens registered to vote, a Maine law requiring municipalities to keep voting records two years only, and hundreds of potential dual voting cases where the same voters appear on more than one municipal voting list.

Okay, one at a time. It is not illegal for students to be registered in two states. That is not Maine’s problem. It is also something that, short of registering all Americans in a Federal database and enforcing reporting requirements whenever any American ever leaves a municipality, you just can’t solve.

Second: non-citizens registered to vote? Well, about half a dozen. This is a human system, after all. But how does ending same day registration solve this? It doesn’t have anything to do with it. The only possible solution is to have a better way for a town clerk to judge if a person is really an American citizen at the time when they register. It isn’t that easy; no American is required to have any particular identification to continue living here. A homeless person can’t just go get a passport, but they should still be allowed to vote. So while there are arguably some steps we could take to improve identification for voting purposes, it is 100% clear that ending same-day registration will not help in the slightest. Town clerks don’t research the background of everyone who signs up to vote. If someone has a fake driver’s license or a fake passport, well, your town clerk is simply unlikely to catch it. Town clerks just don’t have the resources to stop this. It doesn’t matter how many days they have before an election because they simply don’t do anything after a person presents identification that appears to be accurate.

What can we do about fraudulent identification? The idea is that penalties are stiff enough that people won’t risk trying. Just like if someone wants to rob your house, well, they probably can. All we can do is punish people who do commit the crime to discourage others from trying.

Keeping records more than two years? Sure, why not. Of course, you’ve got to pay for that. Space isn’t free.

Finally, “hundreds of potential dual voting cases where the same voters appear on more than one municipal voting list” is total bunk. This happens because people move. We are allowed to move from town A to town B. It does not indicate voter fraud.

Here’s my final take: If you want to hire some people to investigate cases each election and track down the one out of every five-hundred leads that might end with driver’s license fraud, well, fine. It costs lots of money for little benefit, but sure. Go ahead.

But let’s be honest: same day registration has nothing to do with any of this. Nothing. And don’t complain about how the media is covering the story when your guy, Charlie Webster, decided to hold a press conference and announce he found 206 cases of almost-sort of-just wait and see voter fraud. He was lying. As in, making it up. Bullshitting. Why should any reporter give him the benefit of the doubt again?

Charlie Webster has no credibility left and Charlie Summers’ is evaporating rapidly. Quit whining; you said we would find fraud and we didn’t find fraud. Charlie Summers said some other stuff to try and save face, but none of it was anything that required an “investigation” to determine. It is, frankly, embarrassing.

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Why is this so hard?

Naran still doesn’t get it. Regarding the medical students who voted from a Holiday Inn, she writes:

Let’s assume for the sake of argument that all 19 medical students were legal Maine residents, and entitled to vote in this state.

So – they all vote one time, in the 2004 Maine presidential election, and then, never again? None of them – not just one or two?

Sometimes coincidence is just that. Sometimes, not so much.

I want to bang my head on a wall when I read stuff like this.

Why should one or two have to vote again? It makes no difference whatsoever.

Why can’t these students be residents while they are here, but then, when they move to their rebuilt school a year later, they simply become non-residents yet again? Why is this so fricking difficult?

Why is it so hard to comprehend that “resident” does not only mean people who intend to live in Maine for the foreseeable, indefinite future?

If I know I’m moving to New Orleans on November 4, can I still vote in Maine while I live here on November 3? Of course I can. Just like a med student can vote here even though they fully expect to move back to the Cayman Islands when there school reopens. This isn’t rocket science.

Here is a hypothetical for all these genius.

A man lives in California. He sells all his belongings save some clothes and an RV and decides to live in the RV. He leaves the State of California at the end of 2010, and spends 2011 traveling from state to state. He spends exactly the same amount of time in each state, and then moves again to the next one. He has no intention of ever returning to California.

He does not keep a post office box or address for any mail; he has no bills. He brings a computer with him and handles all his finances online. There is nothing tying him to any address.

He has been an American citizen his entire life. In November of 2011, he is in Portland, Maine. Can he vote here? If not, where does he vote?

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Charlie Webster does it again.

Another day, another GOP press release insinuating voter fraud without going far enough to check the facts.

This time, GOP research gurus have found voters who voted from a Holiday Inn Express in Portland. Somehow, this implies the votes were fraudulent.

They actually post the voting registration cards online, so we know these peoples’ names.

On the one hand, they are mostly foreign-y sounding. Point GOP. On the other hand, there is a sizable number who registered as Republicans.

My Republican friends living in suburbia may not know this, but lots of people in Maine live in hotels. It isn’t that uncommon among people who can’t afford a rent deposit.

In this case, however, given the names, prior residences, and ages (mostly mid-20′s at the time of the election), my theory is that these people were all in Maine to attend school and either had not moved into a dorm yet (sometimes colleges “overbook” in the same way an airline overbooks, expecting a certain percentage of people simply will not show up, which leaves some people to stay in school-paid hotel rooms until space opens), or they were students here for some sort of expensive specialty education where hotel stays are not unusual, either.

In fact, I’m going to give a shout out to Tom C for suggesting that some of these people are now medical specialists- that would explain their stay. Although I don’t believe they were here for a conference, as Tom suggests (and which would make their voting fraudulent). They were more likely here for training as students and basically lived in their training hospital, using the hotel as a place to lay their heads after each 16 hour shift.

But we’ll see. This is all just a theory. Without more information, we can’t tell if they did anything wrong. Which is why if it were someone more intelligent than Charlie Webster making the accusations I’d be worried, because such a person wouldn’t release actual names without finding the whole story out. But because this IS Charlie Webster…. Well, I’m not so worried.

Let’s hope the newspapers hold off on reprinting this GOP press release until they get a comment from one or two of the identified voters.

Update: Nope, the Portland Press Herald reprinted the press release without any further investigation. Way to go. I, on the other hand, found one of these voters on linked in, still living in Maine. He is a minister now, but was a Med student at the time.

Those Med student ministers, who do they think they are? Trying something crazy like voting. Ha! Not when Charlie Webster is on the case! See the comment below.

In today’s edition of “Things You Won’t Find Linked On As Maine Goes,” here is some audio of GOP Chairman Charlie Webster losing the argument over his voter registration witch-hunt on WGAN this morning.

Both hosts let him have it, and argue Charlie into a corner, but Charlie refuses to let anyone sway him from the confusion reigning in his mind.

If anyone here still has AMG access, you would be my hero if you put this audio in a new thread.