Posts archived in Election 2012

AMGer “taxfoe” admits to voter fraud.

Is he joking? Maybe, but sketchy half-truths and innuendo never stopped a Republican “investigation” of voter fraud before.

Someone call Secretary of State Charlie Summers, stat!

I’d also say someone should call Charlie Webster, but I worry he wouldn’t understand. Because he’s a little slow.

Here is what taxfoe said:

Washington has some pretty restrictive rules about party affiliation/registration and voting. I don’t recall the specifics but it does take some advance planning to vote. After voting in WA in the morning, business took me to the substantially less restrictive Nevada where I ran into a get-out-the-vote brigade near the hotel I was staying. I took one look at the angel on my left shoulder and one look at the angel on my right shoulder. Only the angels know for sure.

For one of my last elections in Maine, I went in to vote (Portland) and, as my name was being checked off the list, I noticed my dead brother’s name was still on it as was that of a brother currently residing in Oklahoma. I didn’t want to push my luck so only two of us voted that day. I used a laundry receipt to establish my ID as the other. I checked in with the clerk A, voted, walked out, came back in, checked in with the other clerk B who, in keeping with her alphabetic duties, told A which name to cross off and I voted again. I didn’t know her personally but she knew my family and did what, I’m sure she fealt, was the best thing, given our recent tragedy.

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Newt Gingrich = Batman

AMGer “Ayn Now” delivers a great piece of analogy in this thread.

He compares being a Republican in America to being in a foxhole, Mitt Romney to Charlie Brown, and Newt Gingrich to Batman.

I am way past tired of being on the reception end of abuse, and I have no way to strike back…and Newt has done so. frankly, I’d rather lose with someone who will draw blood, than lose with someone with good hair and money (who just will NOT punch back no matter what).
This is a war-and a very important war- and I don’t want Charlie Brown in my foxhole- I want Batman-even if he is flawed.

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My favorite Romney joke so far.

Seen, of all places, in the comments section of a YouTube video:

“Willard Romney even flip-flopped on his own name!”

Is Newt Gingrich our Winston Churchill?

Doug Thomas thinks so!

In the 1930′s it was time for Winston Churchill….England needed him. I think the United States is in much worse shape than we know and we need solutions. Newt is the only candidate offering real workable solutions. We need Newt like England needed Churchill.

My forehead is sore from all the slapping it that happened as I read the above.

Newt.

Churchill?

Newt is a third rate scam artist.

Churchill helped save the free world.

Newt mails random people invitations to send him five-thousand dollars, and he will give them a fake award.

Churchill took on actual real Nazis.

Newt invented the health care mandate. Oh wait, that’s a good one.

For God’s sake- if you think people should vote for Newt, say so. But don’t say the man is Churchill! Especially now. You’re really saying, “Well Palin, Trump, Bachmann, Perry, and Cain didn’t work out. But look, what’d ya know, we’ve had a Churchill sitting right here the whole time! Who would have thunk?”

If you live under a rock, you might not know that last night Rick Perry painfully forgot the name of one of the three Federal agencies he would like to dismantle. It is the single worst debate experience I have ever seen from someone not in 8th grade or below.

The painful video.

I felt embarrassed for him just watching. Rick Perry is like the Republican version of Dunder Mifflin’s Michael Scott, but without the endearing quality of always having good intentions despite his stupidity.

Which must mean Herman Cain is role playing Michael Scott’s creepy, misogynistic friend from out of town.

Below: Todd Packer and Michael Scott, two key role models for this year’s Republican primaries.

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Herman Cain

The AMG thread on Herman Cain is titled: “I believe Herman Cain deserves our attention.”

This is a rare case where the AMG wisdom agrees with the majority of women in Maine, who also think Herman Cain deserves their attention…. But mostly to make sure he isn’t trying to shove their faces into his groin.

Noted hater of all things not white-Christian-conservative-male, Apollo, has no sympathy for the women accusing Cain:

The golddiggers are coming out of the woodwork now. The one today has a history of workplace complaints and demands.

This is how women are treated in the AMG world. If a man is successful, he is presumed moral- while if a woman complains, she is deemed an immoral gold digger. Nothing short of videotape will prove otherwise. Well, news flash- most people who grab women’s heads and shove it towards their lap while saying “You want a job, don’t you?” tend to do this in private, because they aren’t stupid.

So we’ve got four unrelated women saying that Herman Cain is a perv, but Apollo doesn’t buy it. Sure, the National Restaurant Association was worried a jury would buy it, and Cain’s story about “I just said she was as tall as my wife” makes no sense. After all, if you are a good gold digger, wouldn’t you make up a better story than that? Who pays out $45,000 based on that lame accusation? I would conclude the obvious, which is that Cain doesn’t want to tell us the real accusation for some reason.

And then there is Cain’s chief advisor, the “smoking man” from the famous ad, who says that one accuser’s son works for Politico, the people who broke the story. Sean Hannity had him on air last night and asked if this was confirmed. Smoking man said, yep, absolutely. Except it wasn’t confirmed. It isn’t true. And smoking man is too dumb to realize that lying about it on national television is probably not a good idea. Or he is too dumb to know the meaning of “confirmed.” Take your pick.

But Apollo stands firm. He knows that women just can’t stand a successful man; they will work as a pack to embarrass men and bring them down, selling their honor and credibility for a quick buck.

As long as they’re not too busy burning bras and getting abortions, of course.

It is almost enough to wonder why Apollo even bothers with women at all….

I made a flow chart to guide others through the Charlie Webster logic of voter registration, because it can be very confusing. It is in PDF format.

Consider it a draft; I am open to suggestions for additions. What would you add?

The Charlie Webster Voter Registration Guide.

AMGer “Thistle” doesn’t think anyone should criticize Charlie Summers, because even though he started out with 206 suspicious college kids and ended up with 400-and-something cases of wasted state investigatory resources and one El Salvadorean who voted in 2002 and has already been deported, Mr. Summers apparently came out with some other completely unexpected findings.

Says Thistle:

It appears these reporters came to the press conference with their stories written already. Why the singular focus on fraud? What the Secretary of State’s investigation found from a very small sampling (4/100′s of 1 percent of the voters in Maine’s Central Voter Registration system) are several weaknesses: students registered in Maine and in their home states, noncitizens registered to vote, a Maine law requiring municipalities to keep voting records two years only, and hundreds of potential dual voting cases where the same voters appear on more than one municipal voting list.

Let’s break this down.

Why the singular focus on fraud?

Maybe because Maine Republicans have been saying over and over again that there are lots of it? If we aren’t supposed to be focused on fraud, why did Charlie Webster hold that press conference about, well, fraud?

What the Secretary of State’s investigation found from a very small sampling (4/100′s of 1 percent of the voters in Maine’s Central Voter Registration system) are several weaknesses:

Wrong. They did not grab a random sample. They picked the 206 people that Charlie Webster had preselected and believed were likely fraudulent. Not just maybe kinda suspicious, but so apparently fraudulent that he had to hold a press conference about it right away. Just could not wait. And then Maine Republicans threw in other reported allegations, including things like driver’s license fraud. One would assume that they investigated the most likely cases first because, after all, they wanted to find fraud. Finding fraud supports their argument. And they looked back, apparently, all the way to at least 2002.

So the sample was not 4/100ths of 1 percent of Maine voters- it was 500 of the most suspicious cases anyone could find in at least the last nine years. And of those, only one case of actual fraud was found. If you extrapolate this out, one would expect about 1 case for every 500 reports, once a decade or so. Is that really a problem? I see that as damned near perfect.

Thistle said:

students registered in Maine and in their home states, noncitizens registered to vote, a Maine law requiring municipalities to keep voting records two years only, and hundreds of potential dual voting cases where the same voters appear on more than one municipal voting list.

Okay, one at a time. It is not illegal for students to be registered in two states. That is not Maine’s problem. It is also something that, short of registering all Americans in a Federal database and enforcing reporting requirements whenever any American ever leaves a municipality, you just can’t solve.

Second: non-citizens registered to vote? Well, about half a dozen. This is a human system, after all. But how does ending same day registration solve this? It doesn’t have anything to do with it. The only possible solution is to have a better way for a town clerk to judge if a person is really an American citizen at the time when they register. It isn’t that easy; no American is required to have any particular identification to continue living here. A homeless person can’t just go get a passport, but they should still be allowed to vote. So while there are arguably some steps we could take to improve identification for voting purposes, it is 100% clear that ending same-day registration will not help in the slightest. Town clerks don’t research the background of everyone who signs up to vote. If someone has a fake driver’s license or a fake passport, well, your town clerk is simply unlikely to catch it. Town clerks just don’t have the resources to stop this. It doesn’t matter how many days they have before an election because they simply don’t do anything after a person presents identification that appears to be accurate.

What can we do about fraudulent identification? The idea is that penalties are stiff enough that people won’t risk trying. Just like if someone wants to rob your house, well, they probably can. All we can do is punish people who do commit the crime to discourage others from trying.

Keeping records more than two years? Sure, why not. Of course, you’ve got to pay for that. Space isn’t free.

Finally, “hundreds of potential dual voting cases where the same voters appear on more than one municipal voting list” is total bunk. This happens because people move. We are allowed to move from town A to town B. It does not indicate voter fraud.

Here’s my final take: If you want to hire some people to investigate cases each election and track down the one out of every five-hundred leads that might end with driver’s license fraud, well, fine. It costs lots of money for little benefit, but sure. Go ahead.

But let’s be honest: same day registration has nothing to do with any of this. Nothing. And don’t complain about how the media is covering the story when your guy, Charlie Webster, decided to hold a press conference and announce he found 206 cases of almost-sort of-just wait and see voter fraud. He was lying. As in, making it up. Bullshitting. Why should any reporter give him the benefit of the doubt again?

Charlie Webster has no credibility left and Charlie Summers’ is evaporating rapidly. Quit whining; you said we would find fraud and we didn’t find fraud. Charlie Summers said some other stuff to try and save face, but none of it was anything that required an “investigation” to determine. It is, frankly, embarrassing.