“how will LD 220 be effective in protecting individual property rights?”
It would strike out words from state and local laws that are not even in the dictionary, such as “viewscapes” or “sustainable”.
I will grant him that viewscapes is not in the dictionary (yet), but sustainable certainly is and has been for a long time.
::sad trombone sound::
1. AMG’s policy on conspiracy theories:
Posting Conspiracy Theories
Don’t. There are many web sites for posts on conspiracy theories. AMG is NOT one of them.
2. This thread.
I think everyone wants to comment on the insanely backwater, destructive hateful mess that is the current Boy Scouts thread. Well, here is a place to do it.
One little thing from me: I love when AMGers quote some wacky source as if we should all know who it is. Example:
Ryan McCabe says he has learned that being gay is not a choice. Bob S responds:
Ryan, born gay has long been disproven. Even Simon LeVay has backed away from that stance.
LOL, right? Whoever the fuck Simon LeVay is, Bob S thinks he is not only relevant but superior as a source. He expects you, the reader, to say, “Well if fucking Simon LeVay finally gave in, then I guess it’s game over for the fags. I’m allowed to call them fags again, right?”
The conservative alternate reality strikes again!
Also, lets give credit to Ryan McCabe, who proves to be the exceptional conservative that doesn’t just ignore AMG’s hate speech but actually puts himself on record opposing it.
In AMG’s “serious” conversation about gun control thread, someone accidentally raises a serious question:
In this latest horror, how much gun control will have any effect on the mentally ill that steal a gun ?
One child was shot eleven times with an automatic. Would one shot from a single shot gun had a different result?
This person undoubtedly thinks they are making the case for no gun regulations. What a maroon.
The answer is YES. YES, a child is many, many times more likely to survive a singlet gunshot rather than eleven. YES, I’d rather be shot once myself rather than eleven times. YES, I would rather the person aiming at my child have only one bullet available instead of eleven. YES, the school principle who rushed the shooter would have preferred the shooter have only one bullet to use between each reload.
YES, the other children running away from the gunman would have preferred a shooter with a single shot weapon.
Yes, yes, and yes again.
Thanks, Calvin, for putting the finger on the right question, even if you clearly didn’t mean it.
In this thread, the hateful bigots on AMG line up to spout off about gay people getting those special rights we were all warned about.
You see, Portland City Hall will be opening at midnight of the first day same-sex marriage will be legal, for three whole hours. This will let people get married right away, rather than having to wait through the weekend.
In AMG-land, this is a “special right.”
Yes, having to wait decades for the privilege of getting your ass out of bed at midnight is such a special, special right.
The arguments against this are absurdly petty, inane, and stupid.
Says Reaganite:
If my town’s office has special hours for these special, newly entitled people, I will be in line. I will be there to get a new transfer station permit. And if I don’t get it, there will be all kinds of hell to pay.
Somehow, I don’t expect anyone around Mr. Reaganite fears whether or not he intends to have “hell to pay.” It is hard to fear payment of hellishness from someone you think would have a truck scrotum on his vehicle if only he could understand the instructions on how to attach them.
Besides, Portland would marry straight couples if they showed up and paid, but they might not do any other permit work. Why is a “transfer permit” the measure of “equal” rather than just the possibility of marrying all types who walk in the door?
Melvin Udall thinks that same-sex marriage only won because Mainers didn’t realize that the phrase “same-sex couples” also means… EVIL HOMOSEXUALS!
By the way, I believe the victory won is that ‘same sex couples’ could get married. Is that the same as homosexuals?
I wonder what would have happened if the ballot issue had said homosexuals.
And Bruce Libby is, well, just dumb.
So, I have a message for the people of As Maine Goes. You are really getting ridiculous. I mean, you are getting so ridiculous that you are making last week’s ridiculous feel inferior and have a mid-life crisis. I mean, last week’s ridiculous is buying a convertible right now wondering, how do I get my mojo back? Because this weeks craziness is some of the worst I’ve ever seen.
Portland is opening for some extra hours to marry people. Marriage is the building block of our civilization, right? So shouldn’t you be happy?
Apollo, Bob Emrich, Reaganite, Bruce Libby, et al. are seen by many people as what they are: hateful persons who prefer discrimination to equality. Keep it up!
Marrying gays at midnight would only be a special right if they had been allowed to get married during regular office hours the day before, and the day before that, and the day before that. They couldn’t.
Suck it up and move on. You have lost this war.
Let us take a moment to thank AMGer “Three Pipe Problem,” who dared to call out paranoid propaganda and actually introduced science into a thread on As Maine Goes.
The paranoid miscreant who started this particular thread, “Watcher,” immediately abandoned his premise after being confronted. He resorted to the “gee, I don’t know if my crazy ideas are actually true but it couldn’t hurt to keep your mind open,” line of post hoc thinking, and then after being nailed down a second time has simply ceased to respond.
There is a currently 9 page thread about picking a new GOP chairman to replace the non-irreplaceable Charlie Webster. It is wonderfully sweet. The discussion is, basically, about why they lost and what needs to change, but all the answers show a blissful ignorance about what parts of the Republican Party so many people find objectionable.
Take Thrasybulus, for instance. He says the GOP lost because it is talking about social issues like abortion.
Then he goes on to show just HOW CRAZY he is on the abortion issue.
Most modern abortions are sought in order to prolong the period available for recreational sex. And of course avoid buying a new wardrobe or to increase disposable income.
Please, please explain to me how in an age of birth control pills, people seek abortions to “prolong” the period “available for recreational sex.” Abortions make a poor method of birth control, as I’m sure anyone who ever had an abortion might tell you.
And implying that women don’t want to have kids so they can avoid the travesty of having to “buy a new wardrobe,” well, that isn’t condescending at all. Surely these idiotic women aren’t worried about feeding, housing, educating, and caring for children who will require an enormous commitment. No, they are just concerned about clothes. Because they are women. Women like clothes.
He goes on:
A current trend is to abort to get the “right” sexed designer baby. Islander is right on when he mentions that while men, even husbands, have no say, they certainly will pay.
An attack that might resonate with a secular, but increasingly weary society, is to say abortion is usually a sleazy creepy thing to resort to, but we’ll shut up about it if you will just publicly declare the reasons for your abortion, and the father will be required to sign off. If he won’t sign off and has the ability to raise the child, he gets the child. Won’t pass right away, but it will surely cause some consternation on the Left, and open some minds. Black men under the age of 25 are the most anti-abortion group in the USA…
This is one cockamamie bit of thinking. Let us go over it in detail.
1. It is trendy to abort children to get a “designer” baby. Despite being of an age where all the people around me are having babies, I have yet to hear anyone speak of even considering an abortion to control the sex of their child. I guess I’m not as in tune with the culture as a guy who goes by “Thrasybulus.”
2. Make women publically declare their reasons for any particular abortion. Need I discuss why this would probably not be so popular with the female voters?
3. Men have no say in the abortion decision but, due to some feminazi plot, might still pay child support on kids they don’t want. Wow.
Ok, reader, please remember that this thread at AMG is a discussion about how to win. As in, lets improve the Republican brand among women by, say, letting women’s angry ex-boyfriends have the option to force them to either carry a child or force an unwanted abortion. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Women will love that! And if the boyfriend says he doesn’t want the kid, but the woman still has it, well then that guy just has no responsibility for that child’s care. How could that possibly go wrong?
Thrasybulus is sure that if Republicans pushed this idea, it would “cause some consternation on the Left” and “open some minds.”
Uh, no. It would be like Todd Akin’s crazy statement, but times ten. Any politician not dependent on nursing assistants to feed him mushed carrots would run from such a plan, immediately. It is ludicrous. Full on crazy.
And then there is Bob Emrich, the leader of the losing campaign to continue marriage discrimination. He responds to someone saying that the social issues of abortion and gay marriage are losers in Maine with this:
I disagree, Ryan. You are generalizing according to bias. Marriage won more votes than Romney.
Look at the Maine legislature.
In 2009, marriage won. Did you and others proclaim it to be a winning issue then?
More than 50% of Americans are now pro-life and the highest gains were among young people.
The problem is not with the issues but in treating the issues as unimportant.
Apparently, no one has ever showed Bob the graph showing the change in public approval of gay marriage over time. Or he doesn’t understand it. Or, he is a religious bigot who is so blind to reality that he can’t see the plain truth in front of him. Pick one.
Lastly, the thread includes some general discussion of whether to pick Rich “Are you going to finish that barrel of lard?” Cebra or Beth O’Connor for the new chair position.
I saw elsewhere on AMG that Beth O’Connor, in her losing bid to retain her Maine statehouse seat, was outspent 20-1 by her opponent.
So Republicans are thinking of choosing for their party leader someone who could not win their own election, could not organize or raise funds, and frequently posts crazy shit on AMG. Yes, that will be a big improvement from Charlie Webster.
It all makes me smile.
AMGer “Jeepn” is on Charlie Webster’s side regarding those black mystery voters.
I grew up in Warren and live in Waldoboro. Due to the small town demographics, I know all the residents of color. If I saw a bunch of them at the voting booth, they would also stand out to me and I would question their eligibility with the town, but past dems have made sure they cannot be questioned, and I have no “right” to question their residence. The ballots are anonymous so once it’s turned in, there is no way to tell how they voted, and there is no proof they SHOULD have voted.
Incidentally, there were 2 full pages, with two colums, of new voter registrations in Waldoboro. I was in a line of about 50 people and knew a scant handful. Where do these people live? You mean to tell me all these people, while moving into the area and registering their cars, paying taxes, and getting dump stickers, merely forgot to register to vote until voting day? Oh please.
I just love this. “I know all the residents of color.” Said point blank, as if it were a scientific fact.
Question for the genius: Why isn’t it possible that there are people in your town that you have never met?
You can’t know people you haven’t seen. If you are in a line with 50 people and you know a “scant handful,” then it seems to me that you aren’t as popular around town as you think you are.
And maybe the new voters didn’t forget to register, smarty pants. Maybe they knew they could register when they go to vote. It has only been that way for a few decades.
Republicans are now the party of crazy conspiracies. The dumb party. This isn’t a joke. They have really become this bad.